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	<updated>2006-12-20T17:21:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>virgildizon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>All ideas are GREAT... but speaking of punbb.org, why don&#039;t we have google ads in here? I would love to click those for the sake of the good men of punbb so they can buy more beers. I hope to see some in the future.</p></blockquote></div><p>There used to be Google ads here, but they were removed. My understanding is that their annoyance did not warrant the meager profits they yielded.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pogenwurst]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/4854/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-12-20T17:21:27Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/83316/#p83316</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/83293/#p83293"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>even though this topic is 3+ months old</p><p>i must say this addon is impressive<br />too bad it costs money <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>hmm maybe i should teach myself php to make my own extensions</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[viperxx]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/8910/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-12-20T04:34:38Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/83293/#p83293</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>All ideas are GREAT... but speaking of punbb.org, why don&#039;t we have google ads in here? I would love to click those for the sake of the good men of punbb so they can buy more beers. I hope to see some in the future.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[virgildizon]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/9031/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-12-20T04:24:18Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/83292/#p83292</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Frank H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Also, if there would be &#039;pay for&#039; mods, I&#039;m quite sure there soon would be a free alternative mod ...</p></blockquote></div><p>You got that right! <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[oliversl]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/7537/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-15T00:56:25Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77203/#p77203</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>well, the modwriters have also spent time on their code, so that&#039;s a bit too agressive IMHO ...<br />(I really don&#039;t want to think about the number of hours spent on the Attachment mods ... but still it&#039;s alot less than Rickard, but still a definitely countable hours spent, especially in troubleshooting after release <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />)</p><p>Also, if there would be &#039;pay for&#039; mods, I&#039;m quite sure there soon would be a free alternative mod ...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Frank H]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/362/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T20:41:25Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77149/#p77149</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If someone charge for mods, I think all money income should be sent to Rickard. That would be fair.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Patrik]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/785/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T20:17:02Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77148/#p77148</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Donations and/or Amazon wishlists are the way to go.</p><p>As Frank points out, there&#039;s less pressure on you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hcgtv]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/1461/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T20:08:18Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77147/#p77147</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I guess you&#039;d make a similar amount of money if you get people to pay for the mods, or if you will accept donations for them ... with the big difference that with things people pay money for, they will demand things to be top notch, with good service etc. With donations, it&#039;s more of a &quot;Thank you for what you&#039;ve done, I hope you continue&quot;, than a &quot;Hey I payed for this and I must have it working before tonight, c&#039;mon I&#039;m waiting!&quot;</p><p>I&#039;ve had a number of people asking about donating to me for my mods, but I&#039;ve replied to them that at this moment, I don&#039;t have any use for the money, that I&#039;ve only released mods to the public that I myself want.<br />And said that they should either keep it, or donate it to another mod creator or Rickard instead.</p><p>So, really, I don&#039;t think you will get that much difference in income, and no licence worries either <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>But ... it&#039;s impossible to tell what lies in the future, but this is kind of a guesswork/gut feeling I have ... <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Frank H]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/362/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T20:06:13Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77146/#p77146</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>guardian34 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Jansson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But modifications require a GPL licensed software to run, therefor he have to release them as GPL as well. This also goes for future extensions.</p></blockquote></div><p>What if, hypothetically, I made my own software that was (technically) compatible with (but in no way derived from) PunBB&#039;s extension system, and that extensions worked as intended with either software. Where would the the deriving/modification/including-of-code occur in the actual extension file?</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s for a court to decide <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jansson]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/308/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T19:58:40Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77144/#p77144</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jansson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But modifications require a GPL licensed software to run, therefor he have to release them as GPL as well. This also goes for future extensions.</p></blockquote></div><p>What if, hypothetically, I made my own software that was (technically) compatible with (but in no way derived from) PunBB&#039;s extension system, and that extensions worked as intended with either software. Where would the the deriving/modification/including-of-code occur in the actual extension file?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[guardian34]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/7512/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T19:52:17Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77143/#p77143</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77124/#p77124"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just put up some google adds and host your mods on only that site (with the adds), then whine alot and get people to click on the g-adds. And ask for donations to your beer fund too! <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>EDIT --</p><p>Could always add admin/moderator viewable adds to any site that uses your mods too... (that ways only the &quot;original installer&quot; get&#039;s to see the adds, but they see them every day).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[deadram]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/8308/</uri>
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			<updated>2006-09-13T15:35:01Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77124/#p77124</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If it is a small fee i would not have anything against for paying for quality mods. Especially if you send checks from time to time to Rickard so he can buy his beer.</p><p> But if you charges for a mod buyers will demand more than they does today, it would be more work to do for you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lhffan]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/6358/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2006-09-13T15:01:02Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77122/#p77122</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mediator wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am not entirly sure that is true, Take for example UnrealIRCd which is released under the GPL. Coders create &quot;modules&quot; which are essentially the same thing as plugins/extensions and sell them all the time :\</p></blockquote></div><p>May be because the original developer doesn&#039;t bother, it probably is a good thing for the community and therefor they let it be. Just a thought.</p><p>Btw, what license are these plugins sold under?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jansson]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/308/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2006-09-13T13:15:38Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77121/#p77121</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jansson wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would say that extensions certainly would be.</p><p>The only real problem with the licence is the phrase &quot;work based on the program&quot;. The definition is so vague that that it would need to be interpreted by the Courts. What is clear though is that anything that could be described as software, which an extension would be, is within the definition.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t think the question here is what the software is based on. Because he isn&#039;t doing a PunBB fork or anything. But modifications require a GPL licensed software to run, therefor he have to release them as GPL as well. This also goes for future extensions. They can be compared to what is referred to as &quot;plugins&quot; in the GPL.</p></blockquote></div><p>I am not entirly sure that is true, Take for example UnrealIRCd which is released under the GPL. Coders create &quot;modules&quot; which are essentially the same thing as plugins/extensions and sell them all the time :\</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Mediator]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/1146/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2006-09-13T13:08:55Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77120/#p77120</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mod Resource]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77110/#p77110"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html">http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html</a></p><p>Here&#039;s two links, the second explains the difference between the two GNU licencess. Basically, if it&#039;s GPL, anything that looks sideways, through a kalidascope at the code, has to itself be GPL. LGPL let&#039;s prorietary software look sidesways, through a kalidascope though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[deadram]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/8308/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2006-09-13T11:32:27Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/77110/#p77110</id>
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