punbb should be a seperate project

Anatoly wrote:

Who is ignoring you?

This forum is lacking official answers to user's questions, if it wasn't for a handful of us, you'd hear crickets.

Although upto just I have tried to stay fairly neutral on the whole takeover and progression from there on in, I must admit, I have to agree wholeheartedly with hcgtv on this point. I popped in yesterday after a break of a week or two away from visiting this forum, and I do have to say that in my personal opinion, your idea of community support and participation is abhorrently bad.

Commercial aspects would obviously appear to be your primary concern, whilst the community aspect comes a very distant, (I was going to say second, but doubt it is even rated that high upon your list), way thereafter. Even your new board moderator only had a grand total of two posts when last I checked yesterday. That sucks big style.

Edit: I'll update that last sentence as I've just noted you've added several more moderators since yesterday, of which you are the highest ranking Anatoly, and you have accumulated a grand total of 24 posts in 6 months. Seriously, if this is your idea of nurturing and supporting the community, you are on a completely different planet to I.

Nevertheless, what is the real problem?

The lack of communication, from day one of the takeover.

This forum is lacking official answers to user's questions, if it wasn't for a handful of us, you'd hear crickets.

Let us know what is going on.

Thanks.

Well, the current owners of PunBB are ignoring us, that's what I was commenting on.

Nevertheless, what is the real problem? Who is ignoring you? And what should be done for you?
Feel free to ask me, if you need any answers. Concerning the changes planned, we are working on them.

What is your problem?

I don't have a problem, do you?

I am involved in PunBB, I'm a long time community member. Remember the community Connor, those of us that use PunBB, that recommend it to our friends, that create templates, addons and mods? Well, the current owners of PunBB are ignoring us, that's what I was commenting on.

Come to think of it, maybe that's the plan, to let it all die.

What is your problem? I don't think anyone involved has done anything with any malintent, the most damaging posts are from you, not anyone involved in either FluxBB or PunBB.

PunBB is six feet under.

Sadly, I think you're right.

All the work we did to make PunBB, the name, a trusted forum script, is lost. I understand the code base lives on in a fork, but if the name PunBB dies off, the code base runs the risk of following suit. When Joomla! forked, Mambo stayed afloat. Had Mambo caved in completely immediately, I think many people would of vacated the premises and moved on to other systems.

Come to think of it, maybe that's the plan, to let it all die.

Not trying to be impatient or anything, but how much longer? Can we have an approximate date?

I doubt it.

Last post of the last, only, PunBB official? 22 days ago.

PunBB is six feet under.

Thanks

As some here have suggested, maybe shifting the domain focus like this is only a trivial matter and really doesn't technically matter in the short, or even the long, run; but I cannot help but think community trust may indeed matter more, and shouldn't be taken for granted.  (And just to mention, I personally think a domain shift like this is not trivial. )

Oh Hell, as long as Rickard is at the helm with his tremendous team I still feel encouraged, i.e., there would have to be pretty radical negative changes for me to feel like I would no longer wish to be supporting them or this project (in whatever meager way I might do).

...However, neither do I find these things trivial just because strictly technically speaking they may not be>>...

I cannot help but immediately find it disturbing encountering a cheesy company domain (I mean, notonly do I find it weird and disturbing seeing "informer" in the url [jeez], but then it seems to be some short lived company with an interest in tracking - oh yeah, that's the spirit that compells me), ...what I mean is it felt like suddenly punbb is owned by some unknown software/(people tracking?) outfit or - well who are they?!, ...and so then my confidence with the product base here starts coming into question (quite naturally, i.e., no attitude required on my part).

And that the owner would take a prime domain for a powerfully prime product and then demote it to a subdomain to a questionable company?  (and  tracking and informing?)...  Anyway, shifting the domain in this way just seems to me plain stupid, or more to the point, ameteurish or parochial, or simply another brilliant way to bring me one step closer to being tracked by a tracker... hell I don't know.
Another indication of what may carry punbb to the next stages?

Oh, then I start checking out this thread, and go read a little more of what I didn't initially find out about who he/they are...
...I have to admit, it didn't help, ...as I keep adding things together I find this all a bit more disturbing. 

Sorry if that all sounds a bit harsh, or even childish, but to cap it off... I was not turned by your responses to hcgtv or others "anotoly" in your statements, including the one where you say "Feedback from the community is the guideline for our strategy and has always influenced our decisions". 
   Plainly (blatantly) that is counter (meaning opposite) to what one may observe right here in the community, which only lends further support to any concerns being raised by others here - concerns of can they trust the new owners. 

Obviously, based strictly on what we can observe here, we cannot really know.  Trivial or not, there it is.

Oh well, maybe I misread something? Guess we'll see what happens.  If I didn't misread or misconstrue, then I feel at least this is a good heads up, ...i.e, I won't expect things not to change in some unexpected way.

PS: I HOPE YOU ARE ON THE HIGH  ROAD TO FEELING BETTER AND BEING WELL, RICKARD ;^)
Cheers,

Personally I wouldn't mind having the option of "paid support". The community here has always been great for giving support but having the option of asking a developer directly would be worth paying for imo.

Looking forward to 1.3, though not the task of updating all my boards and skins