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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well my guess is privicy, you can find the location, ISP and other information from an ip address address.</p></blockquote></div><p>One wouldn&#039;t store the I.P address at all if absolute privacy was the paramount concern.</p><p>At the end of the day, if people don&#039;t want their online presence known, they shouldn&#039;t be online.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MattF]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/9938/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T19:08:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>well my guess is privicy, you can find the location, ISP and other information from an ip address address.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SuperMAG]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/10009/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T19:01:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>but i am still curious why Head_lice does want this.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;d personally guess at either paranoia or merely misguided attempts at security. If someone can access your DB directly, whether the I.P and P.M&#039;s are encoded or not is rather low on the list of things one should be addressing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MattF]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/9938/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T18:21:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128208/#p128208"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yess thats the word (lack of desire). That was one of the reasons i couldnt learn php. and also it was a little more complicated for me.</p><p>as i said if you developers think that encoding this is useless, then its ok = Dont want it anymore, but i am still curious why Head_lice does want this.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SuperMAG]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/10009/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T18:01:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The O.P may want that for any number of reasons. As pointed out, however, it provides no real benefit. It is more of either a token gesture or just to appease the security by obscurity camp.</p><p>I haven&#039;t sidetracked the thread, btw. I merely pointed out that there was no reason for you not to learn at least the basics for yourself. A lot of your questions are very repetitive in their general nature. You might at least attempt to put some effort in instead of always expecting others to do it for you. That is neither a large nor unattainable request. Btw, very few people are truly unable to learn. It is merely down to a lack of desire to do so, not the inability to do so.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MattF]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/9938/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T16:05:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128190/#p128190"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>lol donno know what exatly does support means, but i am trying my best to find the answers myslef first then if i cant, i ask here, even if there are alot of requests, if the people helped me with these questions and other stuff, u would have to answer them later for other members. And it is as u said, i shouldn&#039;t expect an answer but what&#039;s are the stuff like (learn php etc). These are not answer related to the question, if they don&#039;t want to give answer, i am not forcing any one.</p><p>EDIT: Sorry Parpalak, didn&#039;t read the 2nd page.</p><p>Support, Official Support, don&#039;t really know what they means, but i think i get the idea, like if they want to answer to the members or not.</p><p>And ok i get it, If you people think its not useful to encode ip then its ok, you have more knowledge then me.<br />But i need to ask the Creater of this Topic: why does He want that.</p><p>We are getting alittle more off topic here. (its all your fault Matt <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SuperMAG]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/10009/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T12:35:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128181/#p128181"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is a PUNBB SUPPORT forum. which means i can ask support for their Open Source Forums Software.</p></blockquote></div><p>You have surely read about <a href="http://punbb.informer.com/wiki/dic/official_support">Official support</a>.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>why would devs actully not do it</p></blockquote></div><p>Because we don&#039;t consider this is a really useful feature. pepak has explained you why.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Parpalak]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/13581/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T11:35:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128179/#p128179"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So that extension code is complete, if i use it now, will it damage anything.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s a rather liberal translation of &quot;You may need to implement a few more hooks (I didn&#039;t actually check what&#039;s needed to be done to work with hashed IP addresses)&quot;</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>why would devs actully not do it, even it does increase security &quot;significantly.</p></blockquote></div><p>Because it:<br />1) has some drawbacks (e.g. impossible to filter networks)<br />2) leads users into false sense of security</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Wouldn&#039;t little more security over some thing is a good thing.</p></blockquote></div><p>No.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>And besides, This is a PUNBB SUPPORT forum. which means i can ask support for their Open Source Forums Software.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can ask, but that&#039;s about it - you are certainly not entitled to get an answer. </p><p>Also, consider this: you are making lots of requests without giving anything in return and without even trying to find the solution yourself. Why should anyone want to help you?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepak]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/14781/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T10:36:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So that extension code is complete, if i use it now, will it damage anything.</p><p>About the ip, i heard alot of people in some forums say that its very dangerious for other people to have ur ip addresses, donno exactly why, but it may be related to hacking etc. And besides, why would devs actully not do it, even it does increase security &quot;significantly. Wouldn&#039;t little more security over some thing is a good thing. unless it takes alot of work, which i don&#039;t know if it does.</p><p>About the study etc: As i said i cant just learn every language that comes upon me. Web Designing is not good enough for me, i just have one website with punbb in it, that i want to work on it as a hobby. </p><p>And besides, This is a PUNBB SUPPORT forum. which means i can ask support for their Open Source Forums Software. You cant ask me to learn Php, xml (whatever other lang) etc to work just few stuff, that actually other members can find it helpful too.</p><p>And about those tutorials, i checked them out as i posted above, but cant understand it cuz, no one talking to me from that internet page, cuz i cant just read the codes if they are written like this means (?&gt;&quot;!£_VQ) <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> i can only learn if there is flash tutorial or which talks LOL. But there isn&#039;t. And learning a language takes alooot of time.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SuperMAG]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/10009/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T09:44:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is that it, do i don&#039;t need to edit anything else, do i. And what about old users ip adress, will their ip adress be changed automathecally.</p></blockquote></div><p>I specifically wrote:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>pepak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You may need to implement a few more hooks (I didn&#039;t actually check what&#039;s needed to be done to work with hashed IP addresses)</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And To Core Developers: This should be added to Core i think For Security Purpose.</p></blockquote></div><p>As I said above, this doesn&#039;t increase security significantly.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How do u expect me to understand the php stuff without having courses or something like that. i do understand html and css a little, but php is very hard to understand.</p></blockquote></div><p>How about studying it? There are literally millions of tutorials on the net.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If some one hacks ur database, ands gets ur ip, he can hack ur pc too.</p></blockquote></div><p>You may want to add &quot;computer security&quot; to your list of subjects to study. This is pretty much a nonsense (it <strong>may</strong> happen in the right circumstances, but the chances are very low - it would be far more economical from the attacker&#039;s point of view to simply try all possible addresses than finding an address from a forum...)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i cant just learn every language that i need. not the most genius guy around that.</p></blockquote></div><p>Most computer languages are very similar. If you learn one, you can at least read most others.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepak]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/14781/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-03T04:59:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128151/#p128151"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Parpalak wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And To Core Developers: This should be added to Core i think For Security Purpose.</p></blockquote></div><p>Why do you think that the current code is unsecure?</p></blockquote></div><p> </p><p>its not unsecure, its like (just to be safe).<br />If some one hacks ur database, ands gets ur ip, he can hack ur pc too.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Try learning for once instead of always expecting someone else to do it for you.</p></blockquote></div><p>How do u expect me to understand the php stuff without having courses or something like that. i do understand html and css a little, but php is very hard to understand.</p></blockquote></div><p>The same way as anyone else. As you yourself noted the other week, when did we both join this board? In that time, (and neither of us had ever touched PHP back then), which one of us has never bothered to learn even the most basic of things regarding PHP? I damned well learned PHP from scratch, so you have no valid excuse whatsoever.</p></blockquote></div><p>I start going to w3schools.com and when i see stuff this is what minds thinks (??? <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /> ???), i end up having no clue what it is and how to learn it and i don&#039;t like it, i have no interest in it. i cant just learn every language that i need. not the most genius guy around that. i mean how do u get interest in php, i was interested in html somehow, but i don&#039;t get interest in php.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SuperMAG]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/10009/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-02T16:46:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And To Core Developers: This should be added to Core i think For Security Purpose.</p></blockquote></div><p>Why do you think that the current code is unsecure?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Parpalak]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/13581/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-02T11:57:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128140/#p128140"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Try learning for once instead of always expecting someone else to do it for you.</p></blockquote></div><p>How do u expect me to understand the php stuff without having courses or something like that. i do understand html and css a little, but php is very hard to understand.</p></blockquote></div><p>The same way as anyone else. As you yourself noted the other week, when did we both join this board? In that time, (and neither of us had ever touched PHP back then), which one of us has never bothered to learn even the most basic of things regarding PHP? I damned well learned PHP from scratch, so you have no valid excuse whatsoever.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MattF]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/9938/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-06-02T10:58:04Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128140/#p128140</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128138/#p128138"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pepak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&lt;?xml version=&quot;1.0&quot; encoding=&quot;utf-8&quot;?&gt;<br />&lt;!DOCTYPE extension SYSTEM &quot;ext-1.0.dtd&quot;&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;extension engine=&quot;1.0&quot;&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;id&gt;HashedIP&lt;/id&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;title&gt;HashedIP&lt;/title&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;version&gt;0.1&lt;/version&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;description&gt;Don&#039;t store IP addresses but their hashes.&lt;/description&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;author&gt;Head_Lice&lt;/author&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;minversion&gt;1.3dev&lt;/minversion&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;maxtestedon&gt;1.3&lt;/maxtestedon&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;hooks&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;hook id=&quot;fn_get_remote_address_start&quot;&gt;&lt;![CDATA[<br />return md5(sha1(gethostbyaddr($_SERVER[&#039;REMOTE_ADDR&#039;])));<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ]]&gt;&lt;/hook&gt;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/hooks&gt;<br />&lt;/extension&gt;</p></blockquote></div><p>Is that it, do i don&#039;t need to edit anything else, do i. And what about old users ip adress, will their ip adress be changed automathecally. </p><p>And To Core Developers: This should be added to Core i think For Security Purpose.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Try learning for once instead of always expecting someone else to do it for you.</p></blockquote></div><p>How do u expect me to understand the php stuff without having courses or something like that. i do understand html and css a little, but php is very hard to understand.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SuperMAG]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/10009/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-06-02T10:47:53Z</updated>
			<id>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/128138/#p128138</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: md5 (?) encoded ip addresses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SuperMAG wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would like to encode the ip adresses in database too, but i dont understand what above posts are about.</p><p>can some one please make a detailed explanation on how to do that.</p></blockquote></div><p>Try learning for once instead of always expecting someone else to do it for you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MattF]]></name>
				<uri>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/user/9938/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-06-02T10:34:26Z</updated>
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