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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/125806/#p125806</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see what can be done with punbb 1.2 with some creativity:<br /><a href="http://dev.netvibes.com/forum/index.php">http://dev.netvibes.com/forum/index.php</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/119846/#p119846</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/topic/20340/public-message-to-forumdevelopersfacebookcom/">Posted</a> by Anatoly on a different topic: <a href="http://forum.developers.facebook.com">http://forum.developers.facebook.com</a>/</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/119840/#p119840</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if it&#039;s been posted, but <a href="http://bbs.archlinux.org">http://bbs.archlinux.org</a>/.&nbsp; Arch is a rather large distro.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/118961/#p118961</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.quickpar.org.uk/forum/">http://www.quickpar.org.uk/forum/</a></p><p>Plain vanilla Oxygen style, about 5000 members. Registration page features reCAPTCHA integration.</p><p>QuickPar is a handy utility for creating Parity Volumes using the Reed Solomon algorithm. Parity Volumes may be used to verify that a set of files have not been corrupted, or to reconstruct damaged files (providing that you have a sufficient quantity of Parity Volumes to match the missing or damaged files).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/118817/#p118817</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is a notable PunBB forum, not for the style or anything, but for the organisation running the forum:</p><p><a href="http://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/">http://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/</a></p><p>They run a very useful anti forum-spam service. Their IP blacklist is very handy...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (sirena)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116816/#p116816</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GT wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don&#039;t know if anyone posted this yet: <a href="http://www.quommunication.com/forum/">http://www.quommunication.com/forum/</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Nice, really nice.</p><p>As for the copyright, Rickard had already stated a while back that it was fine to remove it and PunBB 1.2.19 does not contain the line in a default install.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116815/#p116815</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>yeah, <a href="http://www.campidiot.com">http://www.campidiot.com</a>&nbsp; is another one which has removed the copyright.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116813/#p116813</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t know if anyone posted this yet: <a href="http://www.quommunication.com/forum/">http://www.quommunication.com/forum/</a></p><p>Modded a bit, and it looks like they removed the copyright/credit <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GT)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116802/#p116802</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.baara.com/q10/support">http://www.baara.com/q10/support</a></p><p>Support forum for Q10. &#039;Q10 is a simple but powerful [freeware, Windows only] text editor designed and built with writers in mind.&#039;</p><p>Stock standard Oxygen punbb install.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (sirena)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes. We were drifting a bit off topic.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>MattF &amp; sirena,</p><p>Let&#039;s agree to disagree.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;d think you were turning soft if we didn&#039;t. <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116423/#p116423</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>MattF &amp; sirena,</p><p>Let&#039;s agree to disagree.</p><p><em>Life is not fair; get used to it.</em><br /><strong>Bill Gates</strong></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116421/#p116421</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, MattF. </p><p>To steal a quote from the bottom of the YUI link I posted above:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Graded Browser Support provides an inclusive definition of support and a framework for taming the ever-expanding world of browsers and frontend technologies.</p><p>Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web and director of the W3C, has said it best:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>“Anyone who slaps a ‘this page is best viewed with Browser X’ label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network.”</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>This BTW doesn&#039;t mean that pages should only support the lowest common denominator interface - eg browsing on a mobile phone using Opera Mini or using Lynx. </p><p>This whole &#039;upgrade your browser to use this site&#039; issue is of course similar to the issue of sites that make their interfaces totally Flash dependent, sometimes even requiring a specific version of Flash to be installed in your browser. That&#039;s pretty stupid too, and annoying, esp for people like me who don&#039;t let Flash run in my browser.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (sirena)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/116420/#p116420</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sirena wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The IE users just need to upgrade to a compliant browser, welcome to the World Wide Web.</p></blockquote></div><p> Try telling that to your corporate IT department sometime if you are in some huge business or govt agency <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p></blockquote></div><p>No IT department wants to cause themselves work, so they&#039;ll stick with whatever they are running until the users or their bosses start complaining. Been there, done that.</p></blockquote></div><p>That was merely one example. There are many more conditions. There are many reasons why people may be running older setups, either through preference or literally through no choice of their own, but exist they do. If designing to cater for them meant screwing things up for everyone else, then yes, I could see the methodology behind not supporting them. That isn&#039;t the case, however. You can easily serve a basic stylesheet specifically for them, if your normal stylesheet causes problems with older/non-compliant browsers.</p><p>It&#039;s poor form, pure and simple. Design for all or design for none. There are caveats that have no workaround in some cases, but there is still no excuse to make it look a bag of crap unless they&#039;re using one of *your* preferred browsers.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Post your "in the wild" siting of PunBB here.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sirena wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The IE users just need to upgrade to a compliant browser, welcome to the World Wide Web.</p></blockquote></div><p> Try telling that to your corporate IT department sometime if you are in some huge business or govt agency <img src="http://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p></blockquote></div><p>No IT department wants to cause themselves work, so they&#039;ll stick with whatever they are running until the users or their bosses start complaining. Been there, done that.</p><p>If we still cater to IE6, IT depts have no reason to upgrade cause whatever browser their users use to work on their Intranets works just fine on the Internet. Now if Betty from accounting uses IE6 to enter orders and then decides to go out to the Net and investigate something she may need for said order and the site she visits looks like sh*t, then she&#039;ll complain. Same goes for the boss, who probably has no proxy filtering his moves, he&#039;d be the first one to call Bob in IT and say, hey dude, how come sites are starting to look bad to me?</p><p>We have to start somewhere, cause for the most part users have no clue, they need an education and the only way to give it to them is by example: <a href="http://37signals.blogs.com/products/2008/07/basecamp-phasin.html">Phasing out support for IE 6 across all 37signals products on August 15, 2008</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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