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Matt: You've hit on the precise problem.

Matt: You're also right. A lot of the problem has to do with the name.

People who haven't been following this issue are bound to be confused: they come to the PunBB forum and they see new owners, they see a different looking forum then they have, they see a link to download "PunBB 1.3 RC1."

They also see the references to FluxBB. If they investigate, they get even more confused: they see that the old PunBB developers created FluxBB, that it was based on the original 1.3 codebase, that PunBB is now based off of the forked FluxBB codebase, that FluxBB is currently still in beta while PunBB is in RCs (how is that possible when they use the same codebase?), etc.

As much as we might want to make a "clean break," we can't. For better or for worse, PunBB has chosen to tie itself to FluxBB. And from FluxBB's history, it is tied to PunBB. The codebases have been tied together and the community is very much tied together (after all, many of the people on the FluxBB forum originally came from here).

The names cause confusion, but I don't really see a good way of handling any kind of separation without users paying an even higher price.

A fact which we don't deny and which we made clear at the time of release and in our "about" page. The difference is that we (the FluxBB developers) wrote the code which we forked from.
Point taken though.

I 100% agree with you. At this point, we have:

PunBB 1.2
FluxBB 1.2
PunBB 1.3 Beta
PunBB 1.3 RC1
FluxBB 1.3 Beta 2
FluxBB 1.3 Beta 2.5 (the "release" we made from SVN without Paul's markup changes)
FluxBB 1.3 SVN (with Paul's partially completed markup changes)

and two different support websites, one of which (this one) was fairly lackluster until recently in terms of answering questions. It's a nightmare trying to figure out what version someone is actually running, which is necessary to know before you're able to help them.

We would appreciate any suggestions you have on how to deal with the matter.

[Note from here: this is NOT me speaking in my capacity as a FluxBB developer. I have not discussed these ideas with any of the other developers. These are entirely my own personal opinions. Consider it a "what if" musing.]

In my opinion, the best way to go forward would be for the FluxBB developers to repurchase the rights that they sold and reclaim the domain name, name, etc from the Russians. The fork and its repercussions, while necessary, have been frustrating to everyone involved, both users and developers. This back and forth between the two teams in terms of releases, shared code bases, etc has done little to help the matter. Consolidating back into one code base and one team, under the original name of PunBB, would greatly improve matters.

However, I don't think such a thing is possible. For one thing, I don't know that the Russians want to give up PunBB. For another, I have a feeling that repurchasing the rights would cost more than we as a team could afford, especially since we are smaller than we were when the original deal was made.

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http://fluxbb.org/about/

Mmm, catfight

My question is whether the link to fluxbb.net (as opposed to .org) was intentional or not

Ooh, you forgot a couple!

• Used some creative Javascript to get quickjump form working properly with SEF URLs.

• Finished per-style templates so that all templates can be replaced on a per-style basis.

• Changed the way form emails are sent (and the way the forum_mail function works). Rather than spoofing the sender's email address as the From address (which leads to all kinds of nasty issues), we instead provide a way to set the Reply-To header.

It's not on a shared host (as far as I know), informer.com is the only other site hosted.

As Connor said, nothing physically or legally. However, I would estimate that doing something like that would be a betrayal of trust large enough to kill the community, and thus not something we would ever care to do (even if we were motivated by large sums of money).

Hindsight is 20-20. This setup could have worked out very well and it turned out it didn't. And many of us agreed to the deal in the first place, even if we had some reservations/weren't particularly enthusiastic about it, because of how it was presented to us. You know that: you were a part of that conversation. The fact that you make me bring it up makes me think that your point there was, more than anything else, to try to discredit us. Not very nice.

Indeed, you do. So if you don't trust us and want to fork, go ahead and do so. If we sell the code again, go ahead and fork. Please, be our guest. Just do us all a favor and stop it with the FUD until we do something shady that deserves it? Please?

You can edit it in admin groups

Looks right to me

To correct my answer to the first post, you should have
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since you don't want to allow people on 11.001.something

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