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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Development team annoucement]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okey...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 13:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>grudon66 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have changed to fluxbb ;D</p></blockquote></div><p>We&#039;ll miss you, say hello to Connor for us.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have changed to fluxbb ;D <br />Bot answer me of this, <strong> what will happen to punbb and Rickard?</strong></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I knew that would work! Now, I&#039;m off to sell some code! I mean, I&#039;m off to code! (Damn, strikethrough BBCode would be so useful right now).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Smartys)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Smartys wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just do us all a favor and stop it with the FUD until we do something shady that deserves it? Please? <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Sure thing Neal, just because you said please.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (hcgtv)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Then, it&#039;s not fun anymore.</p></blockquote></div><p>That is what makes the difference between a dev|coder|programmer and a user. <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Connorhd wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>We hope that everyone can check out our site and that those who wish to do so will register and become a part of our <a href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/">new community</a>.</p></blockquote></div><p>I did: <a href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/15/">http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/15/</a></p><p>It&#039;s been a fun week, nostalgic to say the least.</p><p>Then it hit me today, what prevents you guys from selling FluxBB to the next bidder?</p></blockquote></div><p>As Connor said, nothing physically or legally. However, I would estimate that doing something like that would be a betrayal of trust large enough to kill the community, and thus not something we would ever care to do (even if we were motivated by large sums of money).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The fact they choose to go their own way knowing that in practice they could still end up providing PunBB with all the code for nothing should tell you something.</p></blockquote></div><p>Paul,</p><p>How many of you on the <a href="http://bertgarcia.net/txpun/forum/about">original coding team</a> raised their hand and said, &quot;Hell no, we won&#039;t sell&quot;?</p></blockquote></div><p>Hindsight is 20-20. This setup could have worked out very well and it turned out it didn&#039;t. And many of us agreed to the deal in the first place, even if we had some reservations/weren&#039;t particularly enthusiastic about it, because of how it was presented to us. You know that: you were a part of that conversation. The fact that you make me bring it up makes me think that your point there was, more than anything else, to try to discredit us. Not very nice. <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Connorhd wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Then it hit me today, what prevents you guys from selling FluxBB to the next bidder?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think its pretty obvious this is not our plan, but anyway, do you really think something should prevent us?</p></blockquote></div><p>No, not at all, you have every right to take GPL code and do what you desire with it.</p><p>Like I do.</p></blockquote></div><p>Indeed, you do. So if you don&#039;t trust us and want to fork, go ahead and do so. If we sell the code again, go ahead and fork. Please, be our guest. Just do us all a favor and stop it with the FUD until we do something shady that deserves it? Please? <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Smartys)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Development team annoucement]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Connorhd wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Then it hit me today, what prevents you guys from selling FluxBB to the next bidder?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think its pretty obvious this is not our plan, but anyway, do you really think something should prevent us?</p></blockquote></div><p>No, not at all, you have every right to take GPL code and do what you desire with it.</p><p>Like I do.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You would be (a|the) Dev rather than a user. <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Right, there in lies the quandary.</p><p>Release, and you&#039;re at the same state as FluxBB. You want to be a dev but alas, we have users now. These pesky people, they ask the same damn questions, god don&#039;t they read tfm. Then, it&#039;s not fun anymore.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>hcgtv: Since when did open source mean &quot;software that nobody could own&quot;, open source is not about ownership.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Then it hit me today, what prevents you guys from selling FluxBB to the next bidder?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think its pretty obvious this is not our plan, but anyway, do you really think something should prevent us?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Connorhd)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not necessarily. If you forked and maintained your own release, that does not mean you have to be the only person working upon it or using it. You would merely be the person in control of its development, if you wished to make it publically available and also allow others to code for it. You would be (a|the) Dev rather than a user. <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The two choices are to either go along with the general flow, or maintain your own release.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is a third, go towards another project.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not really. It&#039;s a two choice decision. If you go to another project, you are faced with those same two choices. Your third scenario is merely a placement shift. <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Ok, let&#039;s go with maintain your own release.</p><p>Does that not go against the Open Source grain? The idea is for us all to work together to make better software that nobody can own but we can all share. If I maintain my own release, then I benefit nobody by myself.</p><p>You can start chanting Kum Ba Yah now <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>hcgtv wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is a third, go towards another project.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not really. It&#039;s a two choice decision. If you go to another project, you are faced with those same two choices. Your third scenario is merely a placement shift. <img src="https://punbb.informer.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The fact they choose to go their own way knowing that in practice they could still end up providing PunBB with all the code for nothing should tell you something.</p></blockquote></div><p>Paul,</p><p>How many of you on the <a href="http://bertgarcia.net/txpun/forum/about">original coding team</a> raised their hand and said, &quot;Hell no, we won&#039;t sell&quot;?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The fact they choose to go their own way knowing that in practice they could still end up providing PunBB with all the code for nothing should tell you something.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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