bringslite wrote:

Connorhd wrote:

For those who don't like having their installed Pun extensions in their footer http://connorhd.co.uk/remove_pun_footer.zip

I guess the million $$ question now is where/how to install thi file?

Just today, 50% discount: half a million $$ only!
This is an extension itself, so put it to extensions folder and install it if you need this.

Duh!

Thx Anatoly!

Connorhd wrote:

For those who don't like having their installed Pun extensions in their footer http://connorhd.co.uk/remove_pun_footer.zip

I guess the million $$ question now is where/how to install thi file?

Just today, 50% discount: half a million $$ only!
This is an extension itself, so put it to extensions folder and install it if you need this.

For those who don't like having their installed Pun extensions in their footer http://connorhd.co.uk/remove_pun_footer.zip

I guess the million $$ question now is where/how to install thi file?

Thanks

When you start adding extensions into the mix, fast and light gives way to extensible.

Not necessarily. There are many heavily modded 1.2.* forums out there, mine included, and I personally would be aghast if I ever coded sloppily enough to exceed 20 queries in total, including the core queries, on any page.

This is just a sloppy coding issue. This also brings another point to bear, however. If the extensions are examples of the coding practices we are due to see here, then this does not bode well. I thought the days of the 1.2.* series were done, where you had to double check every addition you installed for sloppiness of coding and general security issues.
Personally, this would not put me in a peaceful frame of mind regarding how things are progressing if the extension responsible for this, (I believe Connor said it was the karma mod), is anything to go by.

sirena wrote:

What happened to PunBB = fast and light?

When you start adding extensions into the mix, fast and light gives way to extensible.

Not necessarily if the extensions are well written, the karma extension is not.

What happened to PunBB = fast and light?

When you start adding extensions into the mix, fast and light gives way to extensible.

Whenever you have software that can be extended, you're going to have users that install many extensions. Just look at Firefox, I bet you there are many users with extensions installed in their browser that may slow them down but they prefer to have the functionality, adblock comes to mind.

We're entering another realm here, it's going to get interesting cause PunBB was easy to support with a tight core, now each install will take on a life of it's own. Come to think of it, i just answered my own question, why does each extension register itself in the footer.

Oh, and look at the query count too - I am now seeing **27** queries just to view this.

What happened to PunBB = fast and light?

It just seems to be some sloppy coding in pun_hook_navigator. It manually queries o_hn_list_visible from the config table every time it wants to check if it should display a hook or not, rather than using $forum_config['o_hn_list_visible']. Easily fixable.

Imagine this:

A forum, with an average topic per page is 15, so 40 queries per person per page.. with 130 users (assuming they are all reading a topic ) that 5200 queries.. plus an average page view of... 200 that's 1040000 queries possibly a day.

That definitely ain't going to go down well with a lot of places. I know the query amount versus query quality can balance each other out on occasion, but I'm sure there's no valid excuse for running a separate query for each post in a topic.
Just been diddling around, and that link above, with a posts per page setting of 50 is listing approx: 109 queries.

By the looks of it, I'm assuming it's showing the overall installed extensions.

A forum, with an average topic per page is 15, so 40 queries per person per page.. with 130 users (assuming they are all reading a topic ) that 5200 queries.. plus an average page view of... 200 that's 1040000 queries possibly a day.

Also, does the "Currently used extensions" show all the ones installed on the forum or the ones that are used on the current page..

Well one of the 6 page posts ( 20 posts per page) gets 50 queries...

60 on this page: http://punbb.informer.com/forums/viewto … 84&p=2

p.s: Connor, apologies for the thread deviation.

Well one of the 6 page posts ( 20 posts per page) gets 50 queries...

If anyone takes their posts per page view above 20, (or even as is), I can see a lot of the lower end hosts are going to be throwing a wobbler over the amount of database queries generated and trying to play silly buggers with their customers.

p.s: I'm finally in sync with your posts now Matt.

I gets 2/3 queries per post.... and the ones with 6 pages is getting 50 queries...

Oh, and look at the query count too - I am now seeing **27** queries just to view this.

Hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it. I know we'll have the response of 'it's the quality of the queries which counts too' when I say this, but that is nasty. Btw, I'm seeing 28 queries listed in viewtopic.