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Probably.

Thanks. I couldn't design my way out of a paper bag, so Andreas's design really came in handy.

Yep, it didn't do that at one point, but I've forgotten what I've changed; I keep changing things to cope with IE6 CSS problems and end up messing up other things. I've given up on that and a couple other minor bugs for the time being, though.

Uh-oh, where? Main page? I haven't come across any errors.

Edit: Someone who came visited my site via this thread is using Safari. If you're reading this, would you mind telling me how it renders (or any other Safari user)?

If you want to fix the juddering menu, you have to make sure that the padding and border in the :link state is the same as the hover state. You either use a border the same colour as the background in the link state or make the padding one px bigger than in the hover state. Now you'll tell me the judder was deliberate

Yep, it sure was. I now remember the sequence of events:

1. I had gotten my CSS to the point where there was no Judder in Fx 1.5, Moz 1.7, or Opera 9, but there was one in IE6.
2. I had tried to fix the judder in IE6 many times, in many ways, many of which were similar to Paul's padding suggestions (my problem is that while Opera/Gecko supports "transparent" for a border color, IE6 does not).
3. I gave up on the IE6 judder, figuring its users deserved the annoyance anyway.
4. I ran my CSS through the W3C validator, and discovered a bug: "transparent" is a valid border color when specified through BORDER-COLOR, but apparently not through the shorthand BORDER. Perplexing.
5. Not thinking, I replaced "BORDER: 1px solid transparent" with "BORDER-COLOR: transparent", causing the judder to spread to better browsers than IE6.
6. Paul's post made me remember that I had once had it right (in some browsers, at least) and led me to seek a backup.
7. I found said backup and used it to fix the judder in Opera/Gecko. I got around the validator bug by using "BORDER: 1px solid; BORDER-COLOR: transparent".
8. I used Paul's suggestions to try to once again fix the IE6 judder (several times), but grew impatient.
9. I once again gave up on the IE6 judder, once again figuring its users deserved the annoyance anyway.
10. I wrote this post.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

P.S. Thanks for your advice, Paul.

Mo better now, at least for us Gecko folks

i like the design. Its quite simple. Did you design it yourself? Cause I would love to steal it if not from wherever you got it

The AndreasXX templates rock.  I think i've downloaded every one he's done.

Thanks.

Awesome! Thanks for letting me know.

Thanks helter.

You've got one of the best, if not the best looking Punbb site I've had the pleasure of seeing thus far.

Although, there is an error now: