Thanks Paul, Rickard. The more I look, the more I learn, the more I like .......................

OK. This is what I added/replaced in options_admin

<td style="width: 65%"><textarea name="form[board_desc]" rows="10" cols="60" maxlength="10000" value="<?php echo pun_htmlspecialchars($pun_config['o_board_desc']) ?>"></textarea></td>

No errors, get textbox BUT no text. Hmmmmmmmm. Suggestions?

Paul. Thanks for the response. I looked at those lines, but, wanted a second opinion before trashing around. I will go ahead and do a little rework, but, save the original file first. Can't break anything, so, I'll just play around. Anyone else with an opinion or hints would be happy to hear them. Thanks again.

Hands down, this is the best discussion program that I have either written or installed. The code writing is superb, admin and user friendly. But. Just one question. There is the written text that can be written along with html (this forum uses the tag line of "Unfortunately no one can be told .............") ---------- well, I was wondering where you can change that box to include rows like a standard text box? I have tricked up that line to include navigation and an ad navbar, but, it would be a lot easier if I inserted and managed through a text box. Anybody with the answer? You can see the way I have manipulated by going to Knox County Ohio.Net - again, stellar board design.