Can you emplain how PM's effect thread hi-jacking? Not saying I dissagree, just interested in your logic 
Hey no prob. If I see something that deserves a comment I'll give it one 
26 2005-01-13 21:22
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
27 2005-01-13 21:11
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Connorhd and Bwongar you posted whist I was writing my last post so I'll reply to those first.
Connorhd, thanks for the link, a usefull and interesting project.
Bwongar not too sure about how your idea would work. I think I would just prefer a normal PM system lol. P.S. Nice site you have there, just checked it out 
*Bookmark's Site 
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Now, Connorhd I understand what you are saying and yet it's easy to write software to please the masses. However in this case the masses want performance and that comes at a price. What I'm talking about is a balance between features and performance.
As for PunBB not being made to get the most downloads I understand that but is it so bad if more people download it because it has a PM system for instance? Like I say, it's a balance
I think there is a solution floating around here somewhere guys
28 2005-01-13 21:03
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Any ideas Rickard, what type of ideas do you want exactly?
I understand your point about adding too many features but even with all the features you just listed punBB wouldn't be to bloated.
To me bloat means two things:
1) Two many gimmicks (features of no real use that will rarely be used).
2) Slow in speed due to no bad use of PHP code and/or lack of consideration for performance.
PunBB's code is such that even with those features you mentioned I can't see it having a great impact on the forums. The code is tight and there has clearly been care taken to improve performance where possible.
Anyone can code a forum (well anyone who can code but you know what I mean), it's easy to assume that your script will perform just as well on your host as it does on your local host. The hard part is making the code good speed/resource wise, spoting ways to rewrite this process in a better way or restructing a system.
I guess the decision has to be made just how minamalist punBB should be. I think there is a balance and that balance is decided by how much need there is for a particuar feature.
What you have to do is look at your target audience, I understand that punBB is minamal and it's an attractive feature that it isn't too similar to other forums. However, if you had two versions of PunBB, This version and a version in with all the features you mentioned. Which one do you think would have the most downloads by now
It's a difficult choice Rickard, one that only you can make. Only you know which direction you want punBB to take
Fast and Minimal or Fast and Featurefull?
29 2005-01-13 20:22
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
OK you misunderstood me Rickard. I am well versed in PHP and fully understand that it would still be there if included in the way you are thinking of. I meant making it in such away that you can install just upload the mod and then enable it As soon as the Mod is launced it auto-installs it's DB tables. That would be nice
As for the PM's being more popular than Emails, surely you didn't think I mean that outside of forums? Inside forums, PM's rule
30 2005-01-13 18:10
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Connorhd wrote:
thats not really a solution as for alot of people that is a bloat
That line makes no sense at all. If it's optional where is the bloat.
Connorhd wrote:
i think you'll find most people will click the PM button if there is one as they think it is better, or easier to send a PM than to send an email, since many people don't "look after" their email account as well as they could
You have just given another reason for the useage of them.
Connorhd wrote:
yeh Chacmool did for 1.1.5 and hes working on 1.2
I am aware of this mod but it did not function as I would have liked it too. It seemed to be less of a mod and more of a hack. When I said punBBpm I meant another version of punBB with a PM system included since it is requested by so many people.
You can say what ever you like about PM's but you can't deny they are more popular than emails.
31 2005-01-13 08:27
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Dr.Jeckyl wrote:
LMAO!
i think it comes down to personal preferance definatly. also it may also depend on the type of board you run and the reason it's there. ie: if it's a board that needs the polling, for example a board that alot of the daily topics are votes that decide something like contests. on the other hand the same can go for a pm system. i personally would rather have a pm system since the mail server on my host is very unreliable at times.
You have hit the nail on the head. There is no universal answer for this and I'm willing to bet there are more people for it than against it anyway. The answer wether or not to have a PM system can not be decided in a poll. If 51% vote no and 49% vote yes then there is a lot of people who would like a left out.
The solution is to make the PM system opional, toggle it on or off.
Some people here have been trying to tell others that they don't need a PM system. Who are they to say that? Everyone who would like one has a very good reason for saying so. The email form is no substitute for a PM system and never will be in my eyes and the eyes of others who wish to use a PM system.
I'm not going to explain my reasons for needing them once more since they shouldn't need justifying anyway. I simply asked if it was planned for the future and still have no answer so I guess I should take that as a no. A definate answer would be a plus however as I would like to know for certain before I start work on a PM system which I will have on my site one way or another.
Connorhd, PM's are more obvious that Emails? How did you work that out? I don't have an advertisement for PM's on my site and the PM button is no bigger than the Email button. People are given a fair choice between the two and they choose the PM system everytime.
Maybe someone should release punBBpm lol
32 2005-01-11 19:55
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Smartys wrote:
IM systems are faster
Rightly so, and how many times have you used MSN to leave a message from someone who is offline lol.
Smartys wrote:
The wonderful feature of PunBB: you can let people email you without them knowing your email (the form email)
phpBB also has the same wonderfull feature. Call it over looked if you want but I have never been contacted by it once in my four years of running a community based site that has 37,000+ members. That must say something about PM's right?
33 2005-01-11 11:03
Re: PunBB & PowerPortal Integration (9 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
I was just taking a look at PowerPortal. It was looking promising but then I saw this and nearly choked "Queries Used: 141" lol.
34 2005-01-11 08:29
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Elrond don't worry, this wont be turned into a flame war however I suggest we leave the for and against's for a PM system alone.
There really is no point presenting your opinion to me I am afraid. I am in need of a PM system and that's not for discussion here. I simply asked if there would be one.
Everyone will have a different opinion on this. Yours and mine are not right or wrong.
Personally I don't see a PM system as bloat but as I mentioned earlier this can be combated by making it optional. I always find when opinions differ, choice is a good thing
Anyway, let's put an end to the PM system for and against debate that's going on please. It's rather off-topic and not what I brought up the question for.
35 2005-01-10 19:07
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Don't worry buzzkill you didn't
Frank I understand what you are saying about using the email form instead but at the end of the day I don't think it makes up for the usefulness of having a centralised means of private communication on your site away from the every day issues that are associated with emails.
I depend on the PM system on one of my sites. Everyone has each others email address available via form email yet we don't use them. A PM system is a great way to communicate. Sending emails to each other are OK but your message appears alongside many other emails. So rather than jumble up my Email with questions and requests about my site (which are plentyfull and would take over my email box lol) I much perfer PM'ing.
36 2005-01-10 18:43
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
<?php
while (!$pm_system_exists) {
ask_rickard(&$result, 'Are there any plans for this in the near future?');
if ($result) $pm_system_exists == TRUE; // Yay!!
}
?>Any better? lol
On a serious note however.
buzzkill, it's just a case of each to their own. I don't care for a poll system for example. Perhaps if the PM system is to be considered as Bloat it could be released in the form of an official mod?
37 2005-01-10 13:50
Re: PunBB 1.2 (142 replies, posted in News)
Well 1.2 is a very impressive release. Well done everyone who worked on it. I have just been going over the code, it's very tight . I set up a test version using SQLite, Thanks for including this feature Rickard, It was certainly a big surprise to see it on the features list. I can now run my content management system with punbb in either MySQL or SQLite so I'm happy.
What's next on schedule for release? Please say you have plans for a system that begins with P and ends with rivate Messaging
38 2004-12-16 11:38
Re: PunBB 1.2 development source (277 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Is there anywhere I can see a demo or better still a working forum running on 1.2 or isn't it stable enough yet?
Also I have decided to intregrate puBB with my CMS, will there be any major changes in 1.2 that would effect code that makes use of the login functions? I have been holding out for 1.2 but I guess if theres not going to be any or too many changes I may aswell go ahead with my plans.
39 2004-11-16 16:54
Re: Logicfury (Lightweight CMS) and PunBB (64 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
Nothing like conjouring up old topics from the dead eh? lol
So... many many months later and I still have no public release of this CMS. I do however have a near fully working (near fully as in every thing works, just need to add a few more features to existing modules) version up and running.
With the porting of the sites fourms I decided not to go ahead with it as it really would create a lot of work where porting mods are concerned.
As for the punBB intregation I would still like to do that. That is I would like to create a bridge file that enables the user to easily intregate their existing forum whether it be pubBB, phpBB or whatever I decide to code. At the moment I only have plans for punBB and phpBB (which has already been intregated to some extent).
Chacmool, looking again at the code you posted. It looks like it would work great for my planned bridge file. Chances are when I get my CMS's homepage up and running that will be using punBB. No need for a shop mod or roulette mod there you see When it comes down to it, pun's still my favorite (or at least will be when the PM feature is finished )
40 2004-08-17 12:19
Re: Pun Queries (3 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Of course theres away, theres always a way lol.
Should be just a case of checking if a user is an admin or mod before echoing out queries.
Just curious as to why you would like to hide them from members/guests?
41 2004-08-17 12:16
Re: parsing PunBB into a page. (9 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
How did you set about doing that mcovey? Using an iframe with source set by the url?
An Iframe isn't the way to go about it, you can get some good results using one but as far as I know when a site in an iframe jumps to an anchor it just moves the site inside the iframe and not the site inclusing it.
42 2004-07-28 15:54
Re: PunBB 1.2 - What's to come (300 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Well I know its server dependant lol, I was just asking if its coded for register_globals off so thanks for the answer
43 2004-07-28 14:47
Re: PunBB 1.2 - What's to come (300 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
deusiah wrote:
are they on or off?
lol
44 2004-07-28 14:42
Re: Logicfury (Lightweight CMS) and PunBB (64 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
Thanks for the info Chacmool. much appreciated
I guess I might be able to do it by just using one file with a bit of luck
I might just look into this convertor though I can't stand the idea that a convertor may have missed somthing out and so usually do it manually but Im also lazy so I'll see lol.
I think I'll be porting my forums which means a lot more porting, such things as the shop mod and my roulette game, its just not a fourm without them lol. I think I shall wait till I code my PM feature though, can't imagine my site without it.
45 2004-07-27 19:04
Re: modding punbb for my site. (11 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Well the answer to how much work this would require really depends on how you do it.
You could actually do it by using an gallery system with ranking and comments like coppermine.
Im not sure if theres a gallery script for punBB? I guess you have already researched that one.
I think re-coding punBB would require more work that making the gallery system out side of punBB. It really depends how much of the fourm you intend to use.
Sorry I can't be more specific with my answer but theres a lot of things that determine the out come. If I was going to do such I thing I would run punBB and a gallery system and link the login sessions and DB. It requires the least amount of work though multiple sessions can be confusing. How good are you with PHP?
46 2004-07-27 18:57
Re: PunBB 1.2 - What's to come (300 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Someone asked a question about register globals on page 3, havn't been able to find this answer though.
So... are they on or off?
47 2004-07-27 18:32
Re: Logicfury (Lightweight CMS) and PunBB (64 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
Well you think it only contains a forum,. just becuase you don't know the address to the site dosn't mean its not there
Im just coding a few more features before its up but it should be soon. Well I guessed it wouldn't be a problem accessing the user info, a db query is a db query but I was wondering if its a simple as using a funtion? I guess I am only going to find out this answer by looking at the code so I should stop being so lazy and look.
I have my CMS set up in such a way that I have written a class that uses phpBB's session managment functions along with my CMS's. This way the forum is totally independant and so is the CMS not like a certain version *cough* BBtoNuke *cough* that I know of. What a bad idea that was, take a decent forum. Mod it to make it use double the queries and require normal phpBB mods to be ported.
All this time I thought phpBB was amazingly slow until I converted my forum to phpBB standalone, what a suprise! lol.
Anyway... thats kind of off-topic so here is my next ques. phpBB to punBB? Anyone done it before, any pitfalls I should be aware of?
48 2004-07-27 12:27
Re: Logicfury (Lightweight CMS) and PunBB (64 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
Hmm, I did post a reply to this but its dissapeared lol.
Anyway, I went with phpBB in the end. Its all set up now and works rather well
However, I am still intrested in adding punBB and so would still like some info on it. How are the sessions managed? Are they called from a funtion and so on.
49 2004-07-22 14:34
Re: Logicfury (Lightweight CMS) and PunBB (64 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
Hmm, thanks for the info guys. Sorry I forgot to check back.
Things are looking good, I am about to port my nuke site to LogicFury for a real test, lets see how it copes with 25,000+ members and 30,000 hits a day lol.
Anyway... theres one prob, My forum. Its phpBB or rather Nuke phpBB. Obviously I want it to be integrated into LogicFury so that means making one run on ones sessions and user table. Not too fun 
At the moment I am considering dropping phpBB too depending on the answer to my question which is...
Is anyone familiar enough with the code of punBB and phpBB to advise which would be easier to integrate with a CMS?
Thanks,
50 2004-05-09 20:44
Re: Logicfury (Lightweight CMS) and PunBB (64 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
Thanks, I put a very basic version of it up at http://www.logicfury.com today. Theres nothing to see there really. All the work is in the admin section. I plan to put some screenshots up of this in the gallery.
What I need to do is get a forum on there. I'll use PunBB of course but I havn't decided how to build it into the site yet.