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My bad for some reason I was thinking you where banning the IP not the host since that's all you been talking about for the past 5 days.

Now with the above you posted what?s that tell you? It's easier to ban using the host then IP
Anyway its pointless to continue we both have strong feelings about banning and where not gonna quit till someone is right so why not save us time and just forget it until its requested more.

And my point is you can ban the same if not more then using IP banning. Its all on your preference and time spent. Also the above addresses are not confusing, in fact there almost all easier then the first one you posted. FYI like I said 3 times already, each host has there own method of doing there string not all have country, state, town, city. Not all have routers yada yada.

Anyway like I said 4 or so posts ago, lets just stop talking about it. Ill come up with a mod sometime soon and just use that since it?s obvious that you strongly don?t like the idea.

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@judas_iscariote - Its just as easy to spoof your IP. Also try reading the above posts. Adding in a time out in the function would of course solve that issue.

Lets just forget this topic for now, at least till others request this feature.

Well I can?t really search for stuff on google right now but I can give you an example of a few ways of banning a host different ways then talked about already. It?s not so effective but still can slow down people you do not wish to view the site.

A host is made up of other things not just your ISP and IP as you can tell from the host you pasted before. As said it sometimes has your country, state, town or city letters in it each ISP does there host diffrently thus making host banning more effective if you really read up on it. It also sometimes has your ISPs router that you go through in order to view pages. Now lets say it has your state and you know the ISP is a world wide ISP or is known to be in other states within the US. You also know that no other members are from the state of the spammer. So you simple just put wild cards in for the state or town. (ex. pool-71-247-100-161.*.east.verizon.net). Its not as effective but certainly another option in the banning process. Now for routers, most ISPs have more then one router that forwards its users to the web. You can ban his ISP router from the host string and that will prevent him or her from posting on the forums at least until he or she resets his or her router and gets re-routed to another router owned by their ISP. But it?s unlikely that it will happen quickly it takes longer then getting a new IP. I know my ISP, Adelphia, takes hours to route me to a new router if I try disconnecting my cable modem to obtain a new IP. So even if someone did it, you could always ban their town, router and full ip. This would stop them from viewing your forums. Now there are more tricks but like I said I don?t really have time to find references on google. But you get the idea, host banning isn?t meant to be 1 thing. You use it in conjunction with other banning methods to help strengthen your security.

For example say you where spamming on my forum the first thing I would do is ban your username and e-mail. Then I would work my way to your IP and then add in your host mask and add a wild card for nycmny assuming NycmNY is from New York and since I have no one from NY that goes to my site I have little care about who else I?m banning using verizon in NY (pool-71-247-100-161.*.east.verizon.net) I can of course add in wild cards on your IP in conjunction with your state but then this would possibly ban other users (pool-71-247-*-*.*.east.verizon.net). Now this was just an example, id give it more thought before I ban anyone from a site or forum I run. I like to see what people do when there banned so I don?t always IP or host ban first. I mainly username and e-mail ban and keep an eye on new register users. Then if its the same person I IP ban them and fool with there host file banning.

Also yes setting default in the function is one way and it does not involve any other programs. It also wouldn?t be all that hard to implement into all or 1 page hell you could toss the variable in the config file to let the hosters change it to whatever they wish or disable it all together. But keep in mind the time it takes to resolve the host to IP doesn?t take as long as you think. At the most it would possibly take 10 seconds Iv never seen it go longer then that and Iv run 2 major sites using host banning. You could take a look at the forum software Simple Machines Forum for how they do the host banning and how much of a delay it pays on the forums. It?s not a whole lot but there software is cluttered with other things that cause it to be slow loading thus why I?m here lol.

Ok ?.then you didn?t read one of my earlier posts?..where going around and around and talking about the same things but either miss understanding each other or just not connecting thoughts. Bla Im not gonna bother explaining again its to much work. Lets just say use wild cards to ban the host names and that would solve the issue of changing ips.

Well I cant get past the username ban page without banning a username. Not that, that?s a bad thing just saying I cant get past it.

Now that?s silly. Allowing guests to post is like saying hey spam me now! At least with register users you can keep tabs on them and see what there doing. Guests there free to do anything banning them would do nothing by IP.

Yes Iv seen large communities use the forum but like I said when I visit here reading comments and arguments there?s also a point where someone explains that punBB is for small communities and not large. Maby its because I read the forums over the site I don?t know.

Ill agree with you but still security is security. Saying that you wouldn?t like an extra method of keeping your forums safe from spammers, scammers, and jerks is your opinion I guess. I just find it weird that you don?t want any extra-added security. This is like saying hey lets have sex without a condom because I took the birth control pill! But wait its not 100% protective just like IP banning. Id take security over any other feature that people suggest anyday.

Im not banning the whole host. A host name is made up of different parts and can be different depending on the ISP. For example some have ip, state or country, isp router, isp host name (ex. A-12-23-12-23-lund-nh-comcast.com). By banning the correct parts you will not effect the rest of the users that use that host.

Its one thing to read then it is to do. Since PunBB is already small and lightweight you wouldn?t notice any slow load times at all. At the most an extra 2 seconds.

Lets just agree that there?s nothing more to say. Since college is done and the sites I?m using punBB on are now open. I?m sure I will be forced to make my own MOD to ban hostnames. When and if I do; ill be sure to post it on here for you to see.

It was nice talking to you

What do you mean routinely? Like dialup? then they would still of course get the banned page because there username is banned along with their last used ip and e-mail address. So assuming they think there smart and try to register a new account their host is then checked before their register forum is processed and then get confronted with a nice banned page.

Ya I can see how this would be a better MOD but I don't understand why PunBB is being limited just to the audience of "small community's". I find it to be a very nice script and with some new features such as host banning it would work out for major community's. I suppose its something that will have to wait untill more users request it I guess.

Thanks for your input I hope to see a mod someday. If not then maby Ill look into making one.

Whats wrong with having it on just 2 pages over all? You only log in or register once. If you did it on every page then every page would load slow. Giving up 2 pages isn't that much of a sacrifice I think since its only checking the host when they trigger the register button or the log in button and not checking before they click register or log in. This would load the page fine the only slow time would happen after they click register or log in because thats when it would look over there host info and output the sorry your banned message.

Integrating it would not be that hard. But this was just a request to the forum scripters. I didn't have any intent of doing this on my own. Much thanks for your fast replys.

Thats not what I was asking for though. Id like it to be in the forum software thus the feature request.....

oh, I was under the impreshion that this did the same thing as SMF. Well this should be better then if you finish it and people make mods under this new system.