Would say if someone wanted to move the posters info from the left hand side to the right hand side work with out editing anything BUT the CSS FILE???
Auron
2 2004-01-09 18:43
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
In the end I can't see Kennel doing this any time soon with all the other features he's got to work into punBB. Like for instance changing how permissions are set for users and forums, should be all done from the admin panel. But the users permissions could still be done from their profile.
Back to the matter in hand, with all this CSS and do this and do that I can see the skinning of this board being more complicated than before. AND you mention skinning with any PHP knowledge, for a start you don't need to edit any PHP code to skin your board!
Auron
3 2004-01-08 20:28
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
This is all very well but what if Kennel doesn't use CSS? If a MOD comes out it will have to work with the current way stylin is done and you'll have to modify all the styles/layout of the mods to fit in with your method of stylin/layout to fit with your forum if you fully adopt CSS.
If you plan on using any CSS hacks better read this first...
http://digital-web.com/columns/keepitsi … 3-11.shtml
This also shows browser support of CSS (NOT sure if its up-to-date)...
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html
Another interesting read on XHTML and CSS...
http://www.quirksmode.org/about/quirksmode.html
Auron
4 2004-01-07 19:18
Re: PunPoll v1.2.3 (188 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 modifications, plugins and integrations)
chacmool wrote:
Changelog:11 dec
· Users cannot longer change the question.
Don't you mean... "Users can no longer change the question."
Auron
5 2004-01-07 19:14
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Anyway i think you should keep it how it is Kennel, okay, maybe make it all XML/XHTML code but forget the CSS if Spot wants it to be all done in CSS then knock yourself out. I prefer desiging stuff with tables.
If CSS was meant to replace HTML which is what you make it sound like how come all the major browsers haven't noticed this?!?
The major issue is making things XML/XHTML compatible since it will replace HTML one of these days.
6 2004-01-07 19:12
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
Does it all really matter???
About 80% of web designers use tables for layout and CSS for adding all the styling and minor page formatting.
7 2004-01-07 19:10
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
PunBB already uses CSS for what its for which is formatting (which does mean layout and style!). Anyway I personally think adding a doctype to make a page work is stupid because that doctypye could activate a different set of standards in a different browser and block tags that are necessary for it.
8 2004-01-07 16:16
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
I personally love CSS but how do you do repeated bit like say listing topics with all the CSS in a .css file while your PHP is in a .php file? You need the HTML to format it there and then. CSS is nice but there is not really enough styles/whatever to make layouts that work in all browsers and are easy to maintain.
CSS can get too complicated with id's and classes. With tables, all you do is whach a couple in and your done no messing around trying to get the right class with the right id.
When i said 2 files you have to switch between viewing the css file and then look at the file/s that link to it to see the the effect of the changes just made. Whereas with tables in most wysiwyg editors you can just draw them in, in a few seconds rather than a few minutes.
Auron
9 2004-01-07 15:47
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
I know a lot of CSS actually 
But I don't see the point. It may be supported by all browsers (Not fully by all means!). But how would you replace these tables?
With div's? Or are you one of those ppl who use absolute positioning? If so you need help! I have no problems with CSS it just means that there is more to go wrong. It also means editing two files to make one page look right. You should save this page as is and try and make it using CSS with div/span tags (NO Tables!).
Auron
10 2004-01-07 15:36
Re: PunBB without <table>'s (93 replies, posted in PunBB 1.2 discussion)
If they should only be used for data then how should the layout of the tables containing are posts be positioned?
Using CSS is an option but most browsers are still useless at it. Tables are basic layout formatting tools. CSS is not supported enough by browsers or they have different ways of doing the same thing which means you have to have a lot of code for each browser and browser type. As tables are standard in all browsers and use the same tags and attributes/values (most of the time) they are an ideal choice.