Topic: PunBB or not PunBB ?

Hi all wink

I saw that -> http://revo-forum.berlios.de/forum/

Limber wrote:

Nowhere on this site do I find any mention of the origins of this forum, which apparently is punbb.

Reading through the source code I find that you have removed all copyright notices.

What do you have to say for yourselves?

kiefer wrote:

Apparently? PunBB? you should check your words before saying something like that. Revo is not related in any way to PunBB, it does not borrow code from it as it does not borrow code from any other forum software. If it "looks" like PunBB, i must say that Linux also "looks" like Windows because it has shiny windows and buttons and a start button. Please do not come here with such claims, you'll get nothing from here.

Kiefer

http://revo-forum.berlios.de/forum/view_topic.php?id=99


http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8001/snap5sn.jpg

big_smile

Sorry I speak English like a Spanish cow :/
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Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

don't tip off the revo guy what we see is PunBB stuff (lol, just about everything, with a few renames of files and stuff wink) ... if we do he will destroy the 'evidence' before Rickard sees this

just hope Rickard has enough energy to put lots of pressure on this guy ...

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Frank H wrote:

don't tip off the revo guy what we see is PunBB stuff (lol, just about everything, with a few renames of files and stuff wink) ... if we do he will destroy the 'evidence' before Rickard sees this

Well, the evidence is so obvious and many that I don't think he can... http://revo-forum.berlios.de/index.php? … ticleid=11

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lol ... he just confessed?

kiefer - Lead Developer wrote:

Yes Jansson, I copied punBB in order to create a better and more secure forum, and I HAD to copy the lamest and most insecure forum ever. You got me and I must confess  that. You're absolutely right ...

As for the high afluence of "bad" users coming today, I hope this wills tart else I will be forced to take some measures. I did not come to your forum and swear as some of your users did. Si, please impose your users some respect else I WILL do it.

Topic is closed. Revo is not related to PunBB in anything.

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What is a pity is if they had left the copyright in the source files there would be no real cause of complaint, but removing it breaks the GPL licence and amounts to a copyright violation as I understand it.

6 (edited by Jansson 2006-02-12 14:24)

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Paul, correct smile

Frank H, that sure was a weird post. First he ripped PunBB, then it's not related in any way? And then PunBB is the most insecure forum ever and he was the saviour to fix it? I'm gonna look for a changelog smile

EDIT: Found a changelog, doesn't say anything about security fixes sad Just alot of mods installed.

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Mmm, I just checked, he included my Sitemap mod without the GPL clause in it :-/

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what an idiot ;]

9 (edited by Smartys 2006-02-12 14:57)

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rofl, I just tried installing it: it doesn't even install properly, the config.php it generated for me was

<?= htmlspecialchars($config) ?>

tongue

Aha, the cause is a reliance on short-tags
n00b

Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

damn ^^
He told that I was stupid... Hahaha!

11 (edited by Smartys 2006-02-12 14:59)

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roflmao, the default style is set to Oxygen.css big_smile
(There is no Oxygen.css file that he has btw)

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I think it would be better if no more poeple posted on their forum. If Rickard chooses to take any action thats up to him but lets not get him involved in a fight which was not of his choosing. Somebody on the related thread also suggested giving the forum a poor rating at hotscripts. I don't think that is a good idea as by implication that also gives PunBB a poor rating. Far better to have hotscripts remove it alltogether but thats a matter for Rickard.

Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

Paul: It appears they ripped you off too:

http://revo-forum.berlios.de/wiki/doku. … _resources
http://punbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5791

Some of the URLs even still have the "..." inside them. big_smile

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14 (edited by Smartys 2006-02-12 15:28)

Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

http://revo-forum.berlios.de/wiki/doku. … out_kiefer
tongue

http://revo-forum.berlios.de/index.php? … ectionid=3
Someone might want to tell them that their forum software violates copyrights tongue

Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

 I have a large experience in web applications? programming, web design and professional graphics

Oh, and he forgot to mention professional stealing tongue

Check this out too

Description: The Revo Forum project started as an alternative to the big and complex forum systems, like Invision Power Board or vBulletin. The idea behind its development was that a forum must be powerfull yet easy to use. And from my experiences with the before mentioned forums I can tell you that they sure are not easy to install and use.

16 (edited by Limber 2006-02-12 15:47)

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As Paul said earlier:

Paul wrote:

I think it would be better if no more poeple posted on their forum. If Rickard chooses to take any action thats up to him but lets not get him involved in a fight which was not of his choosing. Somebody on the related thread also suggested giving the forum a poor rating at hotscripts. I don't think that is a good idea as by implication that also gives PunBB a poor rating. Far better to have hotscripts remove it alltogether but thats a matter for Rickard.

Just bumping that... I feel kinda bad now when I have posted there hmm
Let the devs here solve this.

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http://developer.berlios.de/tos/tos.php

11. COPYRIGHTS

BerliOS Developer respects the intellectual property of all parties and we ask our users to do the same. If a user or other third party believes that its Content has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, that user or third party should provide BerliOS Developer with the following information: (a) an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright interest; (b) a description of the copyrighted work that has been infringed; (c) a description of where the allegedly infringing material is located on the Website; (d) the affected user or third party's address, telephone number and email address; (e) a statement by the affected user or third party that he or she has a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent or the law; and (f) a statement by the affected user or third party, under penalty of perjury, that the above information is accurate and that such user or third party is the copyright owner or is otherwise authorized to act on the copyright owner's behalf. If BerliOS Developer receives such a claim, BerliOS Developer reserves the right to refuse or delete Content as described under Section 4 hereto, or to terminate a user's account in accordance with Section 7.

Sounds... fun tongue

18 (edited by hcgtv 2006-02-12 19:22)

Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

This is interesting, so let's put on our Sherlock hats.

I downloaded AttoCMS which led me to: http://www.dreamgear.com/

Further digging led me to: http://family.dreamgearweb.com/ - a gallery to peruse!

Is Jeffrey A. Dickens one of the developers behind this ripoff?

Correction, Jeffrey's project name is being used by this fellow:

http://hcgtv.com/media/1/kiefer_andrew_kale.jpg

Kiefer Andrew Kale.

Sorry Jeffrey, we feel your pain.

19 (edited by Smartys 2006-02-12 16:18)

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How interesting (when you try to refer someone)
Set-Cookie: punreferrer=42; expires=Sun, 12-Feb-06 17:05:29 GMT
big_smile

In fact, I searched the code (the current code, not the CVS which steals even more stuff) for "pun" and found 150+ entries. Some don't prove anything, but most do big_smile

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Check out the third screenshot - getting ready for selling the product?

http://revo-forum.berlios.de/index.php?categoryid=3

I've been down so long it's beginning to look like up..

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I saw that when I was looking around tongue
In fact, it wants you to enter some info for the install: lucky me, I just disabled Javascript and it didn't say a word big_smile

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Meh, their site is down.

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http://revo-forum.berlios.de/forum/view … php?id=102

Due to the fact that this website experienced some high amount of traffic coming from two referrers only, I decided to suspend registrations for some time (you can of course e-mail me for a account request and I will create it), removed some accounts and even banned users that were showing offensive behavior.
As for you, Mediator, the one who sais that MY code is copyrighted by you, are-n you the same guy who said he wrote Mozilla Firefox, developped the C++ language with Bjarne and drove the McLaren car at the last F1 Championship? What code dude is copyrighted by you? Tell me those line of code and I will prove you that you are so wrong. I bet you copyrighted too the IPB and perhaps Joomla/Mambo...

I asked you nicely to stop claiming things that aren't yours, but you still behave like some original jerks, so I will BAN all traffic which comes from the two referrars (and you know them). I already e-mailed the BerliOS administrators with a request to block all traffic coming onto the project page.

OpenSource will not die because some people just want to crush anything that's better than their product. I installed your forum today ... and ... as its name says, it's a puny forum. perhaps all the guys who visited this website today can contribute to YOUR forum and make it better instead of claiming other people code.

*starts laughing really hard big_smile*

Re: PunBB or not PunBB ?

How old is this guy, really? 12?

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pogenwurst wrote:

How old is this guy, really? 12?

Sounds about right.