Moving to a new domain (Page 2 of 3)

Hi, all.

Yes, I work for ?the folks who own the PunBB project?.

No, we are not planning ?paid official extensions & support? or anything like that.

And yes, we are going to release all the further versions of PunBB core and extensions under GPL, in cooperation with the community. PunBB remains Free, nothing's going to be changed.

Although only old PunBB Team have taken part in discussions so far, we are attentively reading Forums and other sites concerning PunBB. Feedback from the community is the guideline for our strategy and has always influenced our decisions.

We are planning to have only one way of commercial use of PunBB (PunBB was bought having these plans in mind): it is cross-promotion and integration (of course using non-core-integrated optional extensions only) with other of our services like feed.informer.com. That is why we?ve moved punbb.org to punbb.informer.com. It is important for us to openly cross-promote our services among sites and not to deceive users regarding projects` affiliation. The strong opinion of company leaders is that our position is much more honest in relation to PunBB users, than well-known pseudo-independent ?.org? foundations, who actively promote internet-giants in their ?free, open-source and noncommercial? products.

We are going to publish a bunch of extensions soon and release 1.3 core in cooperation with the community.

Hi Anatoly,

Open Source is about openness, conveying to the community your goals, aspirations and day to day happenings. PunBB has a blog, which could have been used to convey SoftDeluxe's honest intentions from the start. This switching of domains should of been discussed here on this forum, gotten the user's opinions long beforehand. Keep in mind that PunBB is nothing without the community, the code has no value without it's dedicated users.

The reason I got involved with PunBB four years back was that Rickard was open and honest with us. He returned our emails, he was a person you could touch and feel. I don't feel you Anatoly, I don't know who you are, what your intentions are or if you prefer beer over wine. There in lies the problem, why I've stayed away from this forum for so long, lack of communication.

Yes, I was a former developer, but I'm still a user.

As long as PunBB keeps it's initial goals, it's fine by me. Currently anxiously waiting the PunBB final 1.3, keep up the good work guys!

Good one hcgtv.

Anatoly, I don't want to jump into conclusions, I think it's too early for that, but somehow I don't like all this.

1. Moving from .org to .com domain is a bit fishy to me.

2. Why hide info of informer.com if you are promoting 'honesty'?

3. What's next? Sending me junk mail with promotions on my email address that I used to register on punbb.org?

Last edited by snapsolutions (2008-05-03 01:45:45)

How can you be sure? How do you expect me to trust them when they are hiding from the begining?

Now that they own the project, they have a huge DB full with email addresses. To be exact -> Total number of registered users: 12869

This is not a good start!

Last edited by snapsolutions (2008-05-03 02:11:20)

Fixed.
Thanks.

Smells like Mambo and Joomla! to me.

It is? Where? Does it still work with punbb.org or did the Trac environment move, too?

Yes, you are right.

We do not want to bring revolutionary changes to the PunBB world and we had no critical issues to discuss before. The community leader, Rickard, was the only person who gave ?official? comments on PunBB events for a long time. Now we are making steps, requiring direct communication with the community, so we start such a discussion here. We?ll think of blogging about this, thanks for the point.

I understand you and? feel free to mail us, or personally me :))

Yes, there is a problem that we are a corporation, not a guru-person like Rickard. And we should acknowledge that we don?t have enough experience of being ?open and honest? as a company, and no one of us can pretend to be such a leader as Rickard.
Yes, it is hard to tell us: ?Hey, fellow, do you have enough beer to code 1.3 in a month?? Seeing this, we?re starting to answer your questions here and we will try to be ?open and honest? enough.
We do know the great value of the community and we are looking for the ways of giving proper comments and feelings to you.

Telling more about our plans, we?d like PunBB to become the best forum engine in every respect, adding maximum of functionality, but for all that, keeping it ?fast and lightweight?. PunBB 1.3 extension system is what enables us to do this. That is where we put most of our resources now. And like it was said above, we have no other commercial plans of using PunBB, but cross-promotion in other of our services, that takes the rest (lesser part) of our resources.

PS: I prefer kvass rather than beer. Red wine from time to time.

My concern is that the owner may be taking to many things on at once...

From a quick look at feeds.informer the people their arnt happy with the service that you informer have given, saying that you have no intention to keeping it up and alive, placing ads. Which is what you done to punbb.

Did you think "its not working on feeds so sod it will move to punbb" ??

Whatever as long as it does not economically affect forums already installed on bought webhotel space. It seems only changes are made to the PunBB website, so the worst-case scenario isn't so close after all? :S I'll take it for what he said; "We do not want to bring revolutionary changes to the PunBB world ".

Last edited by Gotipe (2008-05-05 17:15:47)

I don't think let the owners to move your site on them "catchemall" domain was a good idea.

A personal site is a great publicity. www.punbb.org sounds very much better than punbb.anunknowndomain.com. And .org sounds very much better than .com for free software fans... ^___^