Feedback on 1.3 (Page 1 of 2)

On the other hand, it's quite easy to try one, then another, one, etc. Just one click.

The fastest way is to have the crude-url version of that page bookmarked. But maybe a link/button would be easier, yup.

This is in: try the "fancy" setting.

You are not everyone. The English is very, very slightly, rude, but other than that it's a safe warning for newbies.

Yes it should. If one is banned, and get a "this email is banned" error, one will simply enter another dummy (hotmail or whatever) email address. While with this, at least the admin can catch up on the dumb banned.

Users shouldn't be made to do extra work when we can provide simple examples. The admin interface uses help elements all over the place as is, so it's certainly not faux-paux to do so.

Sorry, I was unclear. I'd like the folder option + fancy - type_numerals. If you check out the fancy option, it still uses the "forum1-Test-Forum" syntax. The "forum1" should be dropped, there are easy ways to get around doing that which several other software solutions successfully employ.

Getting to the crude-url version of the page isn't the problem -- having it do anything is. When you have SEF on, and you load the crude-url version of that page, the form action value uses the SEF variant of the page url. Since SEF isn't working, this means that trying to submit fails and you can't reset the option.

I don't see this needing any special warning, is what I'm getting at. There can't possibly be any question about what this option does and what it means to disable it. I think it's simply excessive.

This is the wrong way to fix that particular problem. When a user signs up with a banned email or IP address, they should not be told what the problem was, but simply that they aren't allowed to register. Anything else is giving the maligned user too much information.

It's like having this kind of error on your login form: "Sorry, the password for joe@joe.com was incorrect". It tells the user too much compared to "That username/password combination failed."

I think the default action here is actually very, very confusing to new admins. Think about it: they ban a user, IP, and email and then that same user comes back with the email again. The admin is left sitting there going, "How the heck did they do that? I banned that email!" cursing the seemingly broken email ban.

I stand by my assertion that this should be off by default so that banned emails are not allowed back in -- however, if it stays like this then it definitely needs to propagate to the banning page with a note next to the email box that "* Email addresses can currently be reused for signups." with a link to the option page to toggle that back

First of all. Thanks for the report.

I'd love to hear your suggestion for getting around this. The only solution I am aware of is storing a safe URL version (a stub) of the forum and topic titles and then doing a SQL string search for the stub in the respective tables. Not very efficient.

To make things worse, you have to deal with duplicates. You also need to keep URLs permanent, which means storing the old URL stub for forum and topic titles whenever someone changes a title.

On the SEF help point. I seem to recall a plan to add something to the help file and then link to it from admin. That way help can be as verbose as we want without cluttering up the form.

I also tested the arrow entity and decided against because somewhere a box showed up instead. I can't remember which browser though. Don't pay much attention to any graphics. The stylesheet really is unpolished and that includes any graphics used.

Myself, I liked the current arrow. It's slightly too visible/prominent, could be a little less saturated, but it's ok. And a big improvement of the 1.2 » (French closing quotes).

Having alot of string lookups for no apparent reason is hugely against PunBB's main idea, which is keeping it simple.
Face it, people copy and paste things. They couldn't give less of a rat's ass if it contains an ID. If they want to know what it's about, look further in the link. Or they'll just load the page and see what it's about.
I see no upside to putting in a feature that's so incredibly useless it would fit nicely in vBulletin.

No. Read the sentence. Having the title in there is good for people to know what's on the page, and having a little number in there won't throw them off.

Agree, it doesn't match with the rest at all.

I preferred the "old" right angle quote ("»"): it simply worked and it wasn't obtrusive.

Or, if you don't want to use the old sign, why not turn the new arrow into text?
Rightwards arrow: ? | → | ?

Let's say the new path looks like:
PunDemo.org - Register

When I copy it, the pasted result is:
PunDemo.org - You are here:  Register

It just doesn't make sense! Users do not want that, they'd like to copy the path, without all the slickness.

Thank you. :)

Maybe, but PunBB has bigger semantic problems in his code, DIV/SPAN overuse in example.

Greater than (>) and rightwards arrow (?) should work fine. :)
It's text: lightweight and easy to design (themes/skins).

When you open a html page with five consecutive div, that's semantically bullshit. On the other hand, I rather have 5 neutral, meaningless tags like that and an efficient (I didn't say nice, pretty, slick, or whatever... efficient, in every meaning of the word) layout; it's trade off OK by me.

I'm pretty anal about the html source, but Paul has done a good job with PunBB (I wouldn't have chosen tables, but that's a 50/50 here). Pun is (or was not so long ago) the only forum around with strict HTML validation and semantically reasonable source, and that's it main strength.

Yes, and it already says "Powered by PunBB 1.3 Beta" at the bottom as well.

Another "agree" here. I'd prefer it as text like it was before.