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Nice. I will upload your lang pack shortly.

You are also correct about the template. I'll fix it for 1.1.1. Thanks :)

Nope.

Open up header.php, goto line 185 (after "ob_start();"). Insert:

include_once $pun_root.'include/parser.php';

Then a few line down, replace

<?php echo $pun_config['o_announcement_message'] ?><br><br>

with

<?php echo parse_message($pun_config['o_announcement_message'], 1) ?><br><br>

Then, you have to search all files for the string:

require $pun_root.'include/parser.php';

and replace it with

require_once $pun_root.'include/parser.php';

The files you need to search in are delete.php, edit.php, help.php, moderate.php, post.php (2 places), profile.php (2 places) and viewtopic.php.

It was a bit more tedious than I had first expected, but I'm sure you can handle it :)

It's your call. I think I would prefer not having anything more than the style sheet to customize, but if it can't be done without the background image, it can't :)

I thought of another possible problem. Quite often, I hide/show a column in a table depending on whether a certain feature is enabled or not and whether the user is an admin/mod or not. Won't this be a problem?

I don't have any internal priority for the things to do for PunBB 1.2. A possible redesign is just as important as the other things. Also, "changing how permissions are set for users and forums" is not something I remember putting on my todo list :) Did I tell you that I was going to do that?

Skinning in terms of changing colors will be just a simple as now. Skinning in terms of actually changing the layout will be much easier and will not require editing PHP code (as it does today).

I like it! :D

Splitting the css files up into one for colors and one for "framework" seems like a good idea.

When I read what the two of you are discussing, I realize that my knowledge in the "art of webdesign" is severly limited. I really appreciate having knowledgable fellas like you to help out with this part of PunBB. Just so you know :)

CSpotkill: You've now been working on the topic view. Will it not be an enormous job to also do all the other pages? I mean, with this kind of design, the actual HTML only describes what content is to be displayed and hardly anything about how it will be displayed. There are a large variety of pages in PunBB (not to mention the admin interface).

Nope, you did right.

Regarding centering, see ps21's post here: http://punbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3100

ps21: I only wanted CSpotkill to make it look like the current table based design to prove to me that it can in fact be done. There is nothing that says we can't change the appearance to something more suited a completely CSS based design if we choose to switch to that.

The layout you proposed is an alternative. However, I do prefer a solution where you can change styles by simply replacing the CSS file. Involving the templates complicates things a bit. Multiple styles would mean multiple templates. Multiple templates means more work for people who have made changes to their templates to integrate PunBB into their website design. Also, I really don't mind the fact that changing the design would involve a lot of work on the code. We'll worry about that later :)

Edit: One of the things I don't like about a lot of other BB software is the fact that everything is based on templates. Sure, it is powerful and you can change the appearance drastically for every single piece of information that is displayed, but it's a pain to work with. Anyone who has worked with vBulletin will agree with me on this. I'm not saying your proposal is anything like vBulletin, but it is a shift towards a more template based design.

CSpotkill: Pixel-perfection isn't the main priority. At least not in my book. What I'm looking for is a design that is flexible and that makes life as easy as possible for people who want to create custom styles and people who want to integrate PunBB into their current website design. If aiming for that means the padding in some paragraph isn't 100% accurate in IE5, so be it.

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