So, I'm not sure that mod will be efficient againt random message/name used by robots.
Here is a screenshot from last spam (http://www.languefrancaise.net/public/z … ssages.gif) : have a look and see by yourself :
-ip always different
-name different
-message different
To my mind, partial solution should be, first, to block messages containing more than one (not two) url, with some code, and then to impose the guest an action to effectively post (maybe a javascript box) ?

No ?

Hello El Bekko,

I get a sql error when running install :

An error was encountered
File: /home/domaine/l/languefrancaise.net/www/forum/install_mod.php
Line: 32

PunBB reported: Unable to add table spammod

Database reported: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1' at line 8 (Errno: 1064)

And, two insignifiant remarks related to readme :
-post.php, for me, isn't located in include directory but at the root
-the list of the files to upload is not complet in the readme (plugin directory forgotten).

Hi,

Question one : how do the bots to post and create topics in case there is captcha mod installed ? How can they do as if there were no captcha ? I think they work with get and post, but why the hell the captcha don't block them ?

Question two : how does the native ban system work for guest : I banned the name «mp3 ringtones» in the admin ban panel ; I connect myself to the forum as guest and then create a topic, where my name is «mp3 ringtones», ie the banned name : I'm surprised the message is published where I think it should have been stopped, because the name of the guest was banned.

Question three : can people code some quick lines (for parser php maybe, but I'm not sure) to 1/count number of «http» in guest message and 2/if there is more than 2 «http» 3/launch a basic javascript box to ask the poster to confirm his message.

Thanks,
abclf.

Ok and thank you for replying.

I agree. To my mind, PunBB should develop some tricks to close the doors to suspect posts ; at least make spam more difficult.
Turning off the guest posting is a solution, but it is also the proof there is something wrong. Go fishing is another solution smile

In my idea, the task of the parser shouldn't be limited to formating the post : why not use the parser to evaluate the message ?
For example, count the numer of «http» in a post ; if there are more than, let's say, 2, so make something (pre-moderation or, easier, ask for a confirmation/verification) ;
More difficult, I suppose, a bayesian filter maybe a good solution.

What is the purpose of spam : links !
So, make something that block posts with more than X links and ask for something for confirmation.
Or, for example, say the users the links must have a special form (special bbtag for example), so that spam messages with regular links will be automatically blocked. (and don't make the parser recognize the non-bbocded links).

Last, this would be very convenient and usefull against spam, but not only : develop a script for administration to delete all what we want with numerous filters : message(s), user, topics, date. By word (from title, from name, from message), by id (delete all messages, or all members, or all topics from id X to id Y). Don't forget a «select all» box.

Ah, what surprised me, is the spam mentioned above, is the fact a banned name is able to post. How possible ?

abclf.

Hi all,

Here is my problem :
first : my forum is open to guests, and I want to work this way.
two : I get a lot of spam in existing posts (from 2 to 30 messages each time, in a minute) or in new posts created by robots. More than 100 messages...

Ok, I delete everything, more than 100 messages per day, not cool. And stupid : one time it's ok, but 5 times a day, it is not.

So, I really need something to block that spam.
I think protection against spam should be much more effective. In fact, there is nothing against spam in out-of-the-box version : no flood protection, no spam filter (bayesian filter?), nothing. For example, a post containing more the two url should be suspected and verified.
To my mind, spam should be considered as a security problem. Anti hacker protection not enough.
I complain there is no option to mass delete all what is posted between date-timeX and date-timeY, so I have to surf and click and click...

Of course, I tried all I can, wasting my time :
-Captcha Box (http://www.punres.org/desc.php?pid=250) : absolutely no effect ;
-Spam protection box (http://www.punres.org/viewtopic.php?id=709) : absolutely no effect ;
-More, I banned the name of a robot spam («mp3 ringtones») : absolutely no effect ; in fact, I should say : absolutely ridiculous effect : the guest is banned, yes it works, («exclu» in french), but no matter for him, he can post what he wants. (see pictures : ban in admin section is older than spam, and note the «exclu» title).

http://www.languefrancaise.net/public/zzz/spam_banned.gif

http://www.languefrancaise.net/public/zzz/spam_2messages.gif

So, what to do ?

Do you know what file to be modified and in what way doing so ?
post.php ? about line 146 (where there is already the «    // Clean up message from POST» section), using $message variable instead of $content ?

gil wrote:

Why not substituting in content of posts the blank space of all "[any character except space] [;:?!]" patterns by a " "? Not difficult with Perl, but I don't know php. Useful for french language, and doesn't matter for others (and this specific pattern should not be used).

I agree smile
I tried using the censor words tool but I can't force a   space to be printed in the place of a normal space.
Do somebody have a quick solution ? May I change something in the parsing process ?

Special BBCode too heavy to use, imho, not natural, not convenient smile
Don't know if there is a quick solution anyway, and I don't know how javascript may give non-breakable space.
More, somethong more friendly should be better.
I know there is some script to transform plain text ponctuation in html entities but don't know if it may be usefull here (to my mind, no smile) and too difficult to hack for me (here is the url on one well known script, http://www.michelf.com/projects/php-smartypants/)

Elzar wrote:

Why do you need/want to force that?

Because it is the proper way to use ponctuation, at least for french.
The rule is : one space (after) for single sign (. ,) ; double space (one after + one before) for double sign ( ; : ! ?)

Here is the rule (see colon, semicolon and so on) :

This is about standard usage of spaces before/after colons and the like, not about fonts. Unless specified otherwise, the following typography rules apply to French, English and German.

Two examples:
    En français: Einstein a (peut-être) dit : « J'adore 3,14, 298 000 ? et 42 ! ».
    In English: Einstein said: "3.14, 298,000?and 42?are my all-time favourite numbers!" (or maybe he didn't.)

Comma, full stop, ellipsis: , . ...
      No space before, one space after. English usage may use two spaces after a full stop or an ellipsis.

Colon, semicolon, question mark, exclamation mark: : ; ? !
      French: one nonbreaking space before, one space after. The rule is that there are as many spaces as there are elements in the punctuation mark. For example, a colon is surrounded by two spaces because it contains two elements (two dots); a comma contains only one element, therefore it is surrounded by one space (after).
      English, German: no space before, one or two spaces after. Two spaces may be necessary with monospaced fonts, but only one space is used in standard typography.
      In my opininion, the French rule is a little more readable, but it is often inconvenient with computers because because not every software handle nonbreaking spaces properly.

source. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1010198

So, impossible ? tricky ? and what about «hacking» the parser ?

Hello Rickard,

Thanks for replying, but I think I may have been misunderstood. If I'm not mistaken (if I'm right), you told me that I can hit multiple spaces, which are not reducted to a single one when saved in the database, true ?

But, what I mean is : how to make non breakable space ?   in html dialect or ctrl+space in word.
For example, how forcing the interrogation point (?) to be attached-like to the word before when there is a space between (example : how do you do ?).
In France, typographic rules need a space before ? ; ! :.
Do you seen what I mean ?
See infra (with FF) : the ? is alone on a new line.

teste etst etst etstetstst uuu zetytyze yezyez ezyeezye ezye zyetzy ezyez uu u uu uu uuuu yeyz ezyezyezyezh hh hhhhuuu zeyezy ?

Hello all,

is there some way to get non breakable space in posting ?
I mean, the space before ? ; ! and so so («»??...)

Thanks,
abclf.

Thanks Smartys, I'm aware of this mod.
I'm running it but I get trouble (with punBB 1.2.8) when splitting posts. So I don't use it anymore at this time. Anyway, to my mind, splitting topics should be a native option : it is the base of the moderation smile
I feel sorry the Chacmool's mod hasn't been updated.

I support Elianora's request : for me, it's the lack number one wink
There was a Chacmool's mod for 1.1.5 that was fine.

Hi all,

just a question about banned user and subscription : does the ban affect the subscription, or not ? In other terms, in case a user is banned, will he still get emails for topics he had subscribed before being banned ?

erissiva wrote:

I like some of the ideas (no initial categories...only organized on an alternate page)

I do agree (so I'm using alexking active posts mod, a must have fonctionality in my opinon, one thing I loved when using miniBB, really useful).

I'm a bit late and lazy ;
thanks for replying speechless, but it didn't work fine : yes I get the text for the button, but the template is in strange characters for é è ç and so on.
grrr wink

Thanks af3,
I will have a look.

Hi Edward,

Thanks for replying and sorry to be so late.
How did you do ? Easy ? Working with last coppermine ?

Speechless wrote:

the button part i know whats wrong

What is the solution, please, Speechless ?

Hello all,

Does anybody succeed in integrating/bridging punbb 1.2.x and coppermine ?

Yes Rickard, I know ;
but guest (invité) and member (membre) are also titles of user group, isn'it ? And they are translated using the language files. So, in my mind, the administrator title should have been translated in the same way, with no need of adminitration settings.
It's not a problem, just a question.
Thanks.

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http://www.mytrashmail.com/ ?

Hi,

I'm officially a cool webmaster using last punBB ;
There is some very little thing abnormal : in viewforum, the title «administrator» is not translated as it should be (but other titles are well translated (guest & member) according to the language file ; of course, administrator is translated in some french language file).
This appears at least in viewtopic, and userlist.
I searched in files for the word «administrator» and can't solve the problem
(I know I can rename the title, and force «administrator» to be showed as «administrateur» but I think this is not the academic way, because the title should have been translated).

Some idea ?
abclf.

Arf. Do I really smell cheese ?
OK. I just upgraded to 1.2.8 in real internet and I'm happy to see I have not the same trouble than I had in localhost with pundoku. Seem like it's wrking (some problem yet, but I hope I will solve them).

No ?
(I feel like a poor lonely cowboy)